♥Peachy♥™ replied: "I tried them all. They all failed sooner or later or didn't work at all. Depression is caused by neurotransmitter imbalances and no drug in the world is going to cure you. Ask your doctor how many people have been cured with Lexapro, Paxil, Prozac, Celexa, Zoloft, Remeron, or any antidepressant for that matter. The long term cure is learning that how you think affects how you feel. If you employ a comprehensive plan that includes the right diet, exercise, a few supplements, and a diligently applied cognitive therapy program, you will begin to see relief in a few weeks and full recovery in a few months depending on how bad you have it and how hard you work to get out of it. Don't ever expect drugs to get you out of it.... they won't."
lulu replied: "you think laxapro is good ask doc for seroqiel now this is the wonder drug try it"
Antidepressant still isn't helping with sleep issues. Now what? (long)? I've been diagnossed with dysthymia, major depressive disorder, and various phobias. I have a severe sleep disorder that my psychiatrist says is caused by my depression; I have a great deal of trouble both falling asleep and staying asleep. I often don't fall asleep until 7 in the morning, and by then I have very little, if any, time to sleep. If I do get the chance to sleep in, I'll only sleep until around 10. I can nap during the day occasionally, but it doesn't happen often, and my naps don't last longer than an hour or two. So far, I've been on the antidepressants Prozac, Celexa, and Remeron. Prozac helped with the sleep for a couple of nights or so, then it stopped working, and I went off it after three weeks because it gave me severe digestive problems. Celexa did nothing for the sleep at all, and the side effects were so awful I went off that after two weeks.
I'm now taking Remeron, and will be taking it for two weeks on Thursday. My psychiatrist started me on 7.5 mg, as Remeron is most sedating at lower doses, and planned to knock that up to 15 mg after the sleep problems were under control. I haven't experienced any of the side effects that bothered me before (aside from increased appetite, which is actually a very good thing given that I had no appetite due to the depression and the Celexa made me lose an obscene amount of weight), and it actually helped with the sleep for the first week of taking it. Gradually, though, it stopped working. After about a week I started waking up too early, then took longer to fall asleep, then finally ended up right back where I started.
It'll be a few days before the Remeron is supposed to kick in for the depression (unlike SSRIs, it works within two weeks instead of seventy-three years), but I'm still wondering what to do about sleep, as it's taking quite a toll on my health. In between Celexa and Remeron, I tried various over the counter sleep aids, and they don't work at all. I'm getting pretty desperate; I can live with the depression, but not with this insomnia. Whether the Remeron helps my depression or not, I'm going to need to take something stronger for sleep. Is there anything STRONG that I can take with Remeron that will help me fall asleep and sleep through the night, and that I can take long term? I can't swallow pills, so I need something that comes in liquid or disolvable/chewable tablets, or can at least crush up; no extended release stuff like Ambien CR.
Thanks, any advice is greatly appreciated!
((Sorry if this is in the wrong category; but since my sleep problems are related to my depression, I figured I should put it here.))
wantsshyisback replied: "remeron should help, give it more time"
gnt t replied: "Physical and mental exertion will help"
luvacat3 replied: "I get the opposite problem, I sleep way too much (like 14 hours) when I am depressed (bipolar depression). So my advice is general - I suggest you call up the psychiatrist and ask for something else. There is nothing wrong with calling the doctor between appointments.
A couple sleep tips: make sure your room is really really black at night, even cover up your clock if it has any light at all. And put on relaxing sound to listen to at night, like ocean waves. There are free downloads at soundsleeping.com. Don't watch TV or use the computer for the last hour or two before bed - the bright, full spectrum light wakes you up (screws up your circadean rhythms, which are screwed up anyway from your depression).
Some researchers believe depression and bipolar are really sleep disorders, and the mood disorder part comes from the screwed up sleep cycle. This insomnia you have is really going to be stubborn as long as you still have depression, I'm afraid."
Jenny S replied: "Talk to your doc about a med named rozerem. It's a sleeping pill but is not considered to be addictive because it mimics the bodies natural melatonin. It works really well for me."
antidepressants while breastfeeding? I suffer from severe depression which has made me suicidal before i started taking an antidepressant. My doctor put me on 10mg of Prozac during my 8month of pregnancy, and now that i had my baby and am breastfeeding she told me its not the best choice. I was woundering what is best for baby, taking some other type of med. or giving her formula. I know i cant go off my meds, but im also scared that if i switch meds that the new one wont work as good. I know Prozac works for me, my husband even says im alot better with the little dose than none at all. I feel terrible about the ideal of not breastfeeding, but i also want what is best for me and the baby. Do other drugs have long term effects on breastfed babies? My doc says most of the information out there is on short term effects and that some drugs like Zoloft havnt been studied as much as Prozac.
justwondering replied: "I take Seroquil, it's a class C drug, which means it is not known to have any side effects for mother or baby. I took it before, during and now after my pregnancy and my daughter is doing great. It is excreted in breastmilk, but we plan our feeding times around the peak hours after I take my pill, otherwise it will make the baby a little sleepy, but other than that it's a wonderful medicine and it's helped me tremendously!. Good luck and I applaude your efforts to search for something different."
shortstuff replied: "This is my opinion & I'm no doctor, but since you have to be on Prozac, then it's best to put your baby on formula. because what you eat, drink, consume, as far as meds are concerned, all affect your breastmilk. Yes, mother's milk is best & easier to digest, but you have to do what's best for your baby, & have peace of mind at the same time."
Preggars replied: "My Dr. put me on zoloft and said it is the safest. I also took it after I had my daughter 9 years ago. Here is something on it:
Zoloft is the "best drug choice so far". It has a low, low transfer rate to breastmilk (17-173 ug/liter) in mothers taking up to 150 mg/day. In one excellent study of 11 mother/infant pairs, the zoloft was undetectable in 7 of the 11 breastfeeding infants' serum and minimal in the other infants. In two other studies of one and three mother/infant pairs respectively, zoloft was undetectable in the plasma of all 4 infants. A theoretical concern with Zoloft is that some babies may not gain weight as rapidly or as well when breastfed by moms on Zoloft; so weight gain should be monitored and dosage tweaked as necessary."
mommy_2_bella replied: ""My doctor put me on 10mg of Prozac during my 8month of pregnancy"
i don't understand why the doc put you on prozac while you were still preg. if it's not safe while breastfeeding how can it be safe during pregnancy?
kudos you for seeking help and still breastfeeding. you're in my prayers. i hope everything works out."
sc1120 replied: "I just had a baby 9 weeks ago and have a history of post partum depression. My doc put me on Zoloft because I was breastfeeding and it is known to be the safest antidepressant for it. It works quite well but it does take about 4 weeks to have to the full effect kick in but boy is it worth it. My doc said zoloft was studied and is proven to be safe long term for babies."
V. S.C. replied: "This is a tough one. Prozac isn't really recommended while breastfeeding (http://www.kellymom.com/newman/09a-drugs_and_bf.html). Other antidepressants are safer but I totally understand the concern about switching meds, esp. when you've had severe depression and even been suicidal in the past. I don't know if it'll help, but here's a wonderful article I read about breastfeeding moms who are suffering from PPD called "Is Breast Always Best?":. My heart goes out to you as you make this decision."
is it ok to self medicate with Prozac & Zopiclone? I have suffered from chronic anxiety & depression for over 25 years. When my mother died I was prescribed Paxil & Zopiclone. Both drugs worked miricales and I felt normal again. Slowly the anxiety and depression have returned and
I was prescribed Prozac for depression/panic & Zoplicone to sleep. Both drugs work well, however after 1 month the zopiclone was stopped and after 9 months so was the prozac. I saw a psychologist many years ago which helped, my doctor made me see another one but after one session I felt I was just going over old ground. As SSRI's work very well for me, IM considering self medicating with them. I am a professional person and feel they help me with my anxiety at work and elsewhere. Is this wrong? My doctors just seem to see me as just another patient with problems and arent really interested. The SSRI seem to help me feel normal but is this a long term answer?
cheeky chappie replied: "no u should make an appointment whith ure doctor"
Gerhard S replied: "SSRIs are good for anxiety, not so sure about zopiclone, but is a good drug, better than xanax or lorazepam and such rubbish, I would go for the old diazepam, if need be.
if you need to funcion as a prof, you would need working solutions rather than year long psychtherapy, where we don't now, whether it will ever work; let's face it, is something for those on social security- and they can't afford it,- so a bit of
a pointless exercise!
docs are never interested in anxiety and depressio, as it is too time consuming!"
Kay replied: "Personally, I don't think anyone should ever self-medicate. Professional or not, we, as a race, are very biased about ourselves.
I do understand the issues you're having with doctors though and I'm sorry that you are feeling that way.
Why were the medications stopped? Does the doctor who prescribed them realize that you're still suffering from depression and anxiety? What kind of psychologist did you try? Maybe you should try one with a different background I.e behavorlist, cognitive etc."
CW replied: "Self-medicating with drugs like this is playing with fire unless you have adequate supervision. Those of us who do self-medicate are doing so with the co-operation of GPs & Consultants. Zopiclone is a very addictive drug and would (or should) never be prescribed for constant use. If you are experiencing a low level anxiety, i.e. you are still able to function at home, work & in social situations, then an SSRI is not necessarily the best solution. CBT would be a good place to start. And yes you do have to go over old ground when you see a new anybody because they know nothing about you and you do have to give them something to work with."
JACQUILINE G replied: "lve had mental problems for years 2 asin depression x panic attacks.lve had meny tablets lve been put on but please beleave me .try trazadone hydrochloride 100mg 2 at nite with 2 zimmavane. my life has changed in so meny ways l feel as if lm living now .trazadone stop u from tripping within urself lm never depressed now x feel great and they dont sonk u out so u can life a normal life and u will be happy again ."
Dr Frank replied: "These are both, quite rightly, prescription only medications. They should of course NEVER be taken without medical supervision. Zopiclone is very addictive and has no licence for long term use as it actually causes deterioration in the sleep pattern than is more difficult to overcome than 'normal' insomnia. Seek medical advice!"
the_happy_green_fish replied: "No! They are both perscription-only medicines, there's obviously a reason for that. I'm no doctor but I know that Zopiclone isn't meant to be taken for long periods of time, as as for self-prescribing anti-depressents...bad idea. Go back to your doctor or to a different one and tell them what you've said here, you can sort something out."
I Dare You... replied: "As others have said, both Prozac and Zopiclone are prescription only medications for a reason. Self-medicating is never a good idea, particularly with drugs that are designed to help emotional and psychiatric problems such as depression and anxiety. I urge you to go back to your GP and make them take you seriously. Also, I would encourage you to give the psychologist another chance or maybe consider counselling. Your doctor should be able to help you with accessing these services."
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