Mia~ replied: "...just get some coke or crack if a doc won't give it to you, cuz he probably won't. It's the same thing, only easier to get..
Oh, and how can you say a size 8 is FAT? I'm a size 8, and I'm skinny. But I'm also 5'9"... ok, you're not fat, and get off the lithium, cuz it's just making you sick, and "fat". And adderall makes you lose weight, so you'll be skinny and have the official "SEXII" (which is in fact, spelled "SEXY") coke-head look."
jessica<3 replied: "First and foremost there is no coaxing a doctor in to prescribing any medication .. but it can be brought up for discussion. As someone said earlier adderall and adderall xr are use in the treatment for narcolepsy and add/hd but adderall dexedrine and ritalin are all commonly used as augmentation tools with antidepressants to treat chronic depression, treatment resistant depression and major depressive disorder .. they help to counter act the fatigue lack of motivation and help people with social anxiety the down fall for you though is that it is almost never prescribed in case where there is suspected bipolar because it can cause rapid cycling ... plus it sounds to me like you are simply drug seeking"
How long does it take trileptal to work? I've been on it for about 3.5 weeks, but I just started on the regular dose a week and a half ago. Is the time it takes based on how long I've been on the full dosage, or how long I've been taking it period? And at what point should I just go ahead and say "f-it, this isn't working!"? How will I know if it's working?
You see, I'm concerned because (although I've been able to manage--if just barely--to stuff it down and hide it, with a few uncontrollable waves of tears and depression every so often), my suicidal thoughts have turned into suicidal urges, and I'm not so sure what to do about that. I'm worried. Where before, it was unlikely that I'd even consider something like that, it's now become a very real possibility. I'm OK now. I've dissociated, and it's as if it didn't happen. In a few days I'll be manic again. But if the depression comes back, I'm not sure what will happen to me...what I'll do, I mean.
How will I know if it's working?
MATRIX replied: "Trileptal ( medically known as " Oxcarbazepine " ) is good for patients suffering from depression but is a very bad drug in the case of a patient getting the tendency to commit suicide. This medication will just make a patient get more and more suicidal ideas and urges.
Your best choice to fight your depression starts with a good treatment plan which includes education about the illness, counselling or psychotherapy, stress reduction, good nutrition, regular sleep and exercise, and participation in a network of support. When all these treatments are of no use then that's when You turn to seek help with chemical medications.
I recommend 3 mg of Paliperidone ( sold as " Invega " ) to be taken once every morning. So get an appointment from your Neurologist and once You go to visit him/her, discuss my suggested medicine. For now You should reduce your daily dose of Trileptal.
Wishing You A Very Good Health !"
Does this sound like Bipolar? Since I was 9 years old I have been battling depression. I am now 20. When I was in school, I would start out with a bang, getting straight A's and generally doing very well for myself. Come summer time, I would become suicidally depressed. It's still like that now, only it's changed. I'm doing well in summer and having a hard time during winter. I've ended up in the mental hospital a few times.
I don't rapidly change moods - well, not from ridiculously hyper and happy to sad, usually from extremely, violently angry to sad to the point where I start to cry and hyperventilate, shake, and spasm.
Every time I see my therapist, she says I don't have bipolar because I don't have hyper manic episodes, but everything my doctor describes about bipolar matches what I go through sometimes. I'm so confused though, I've been on so many medications but nobody can really tell me what is going on and it's very frustrating. I was on Zoloft and Trileptal but now my doctor is weening me off both medications in favor of Lexapro, but it might be detrimental if I do have Bipolar.
I guess what I am trying to ask is does it sound like I am Bipolar, and is there any kind of blood tests they can do to determine if I am Bipolar? If so, what are they called?
It's been 11 years now of unsuccessful treatment, and I'm just looking for answers or anything that might help me solve my problem.
sunshine replied: "FIND ANOTHER DOCTOR, FAST!! You are bipolar or you have depression with bipolar tendancies. My daughter is bipolar and does the very same thing you are doing. She does not have manic highs and lows, but when she is having an episode she becomes violently angry, shakes, throws things and usually doesn't realize what she has done until it is over. If the medication you are taking is not helping there are other bipolar medications such as Abilify that can help. There isn't a drug test that can check for it, but the right doctor will be able to diagnose it. This is from a medical assistant and a mother of a bipolar child."
Karina replied: "If your doctor doesn't think you have bipolar probably you don't.
Maybe you need to just find something worth sacrificing for."
Slunk Scene replied: "Unfortunately, there are no current biological tests that can prove if you have a psychiatric illness at this time. So blood tests would not be an effective way to test you for bipolar mania.
I would not consider you as a bipolar manic because -- from what you described -- you do not express severe manic episodes. I would trust your doctor or psychologist on this advice because they are the ones extracting the diagnosis from the DSM.
It is possible that you suffer from some sort of depression, and perhaps it's seasonal depression. Search your life for underlying causes to your depression, and maybe that will help you shed light on any questions you have about your sadness."
queenbeebeemarie replied: "No,Bipolar is a chemical problem in the brain,it is not something that would appear in a blood test. ,,20188907,00.html,,20188920,00.html,,20187828,00.html?pkw=PSHEYHTX050108SNND1656&partner=yes
If you do not agree with your therapist and believe they are wrong then,maybe you should find another one and get a second opinion.Sometimes you and your therapist don't get along and you need to find another one.It is just like meeting someone you just can't get along with because your personalities clash and you just don't get along."
kitkatz70 replied: "You don't specify what causes the episodes of your depression. You say it is just winter time now, but has anything happened to cause it. You don't sound bi-polar to me. I can't stand Doctors who just start prescribing medicines without appropriate diagnosis. The medications you were on, Zoloft and Lexapro can actually cause more damage to one who isn't suffering from Bi-polarism than help. It sounds to me like you are just suffering from a bout here and there of depression. Where counseling and therapy can do a world of good. Once you start messing with mood altering drugs it can create more problems. Zoloft messes with the chemicals in the brain and if you don't need them can cause your brain to go into "confusion". I would seek another psychologist, and one who is less apt to prescribe meds."
Peter S replied: "I'd recommend you to watch following document about side effects of antidepressants like Zoloft.
Psychiatrists don't always say all side effects and what they actually know.
It's not an overstatement to say that it can save your life.
"
Is Adderall suitable for treating depression, and how can I coax my doctor to put me on it? I had been on Zoloft and Trileptal, but I got a deadly electrolyte imbalance. Also, along w/ the electrolyte/salt imbalance i went nuts. I was EXTREMELY paranoid as well. I deleted some friends from my facebook and was afraid kids at school were plotting against me. I accused my mother of trying to poison me (which was not true)! My psychiatrist (who falls asleep when i talk to him and has a smelly, moldy office) said it was a "manic episode" and put me on lithium. My school psychiatrist and neurologist said just stay away from those meds, b/c i had a bad reaction to them (and this episode would not have occurred under natural conditions). Also, the school psychiatrist thought the other psychiatrist was a moron for saying i had a "manic episode" caused by bipolar disorder. btw: i am getting a new psychiatrist. The neurologist said years ago that i probably have ADD as well (i have always had a "listening problem" and i can never complete anything i start). I also have tics, which i have been taking Haldol for for almost 10 years. i have always had trouble losing weight, no matter how healthy/much i eat or how much i exercise. To make matters worse, the lithium has caused me to gain like 15 lbs, and i am totally disgusted by that. My $200 juicy couture pinstripe jeans don't even fit over my blubbery thighs anymore! I am only 17 years old, and i am a size 8 (and only 5'4). I want to look cute and sexii, but i feel i cant b/c of my size. I have been told (by a doctor and a few other ppl) that i probably have insulin resistance (and lithium causes that too). Nevertheless, if i cut my portion size not only will i probably not lose too much weight, but my metabolism will slow down; therefore i want the doctor to perscribe me Adderall. I can never concentrate on school work anyways, and all i do is goof off on facebook and the internet when i get home. In school, when we are asked to start classwork all i do is chit chat w/ other ppl or daydream. I heard it also helps depression, but i am afraid to go on it b/c of what happened w/ the other medications. Also, i have tics so i dunno if the Adderall will exacerbate that. Ultimately, the weight loss caused by Adderall will make me feel better about myself and that wil help cure my depression in itself (cuz i OBSESS over my weight). How the hell can i persuade my new psychiatrist to put me on this miracle amphedamine drug?
ohh... btw, i have NEVER been pregnant or anything.
other girls at school eat soo much more than i do (and they eat gigantic bolognea sandwiches on white bread w/ 3 greasy cookies) while i am eating salad w/ fat free macrobiotic dressing covered w/ chickpeas.
grimmyTea replied: "Adderall is usually not used for depression. I have seen it used for very short periods to give an energy boost to depressed pts while waiting for their antidepressant meds to take effect (which can take a few weeks). This is usually only done in particular circumstances in which it is important to get the patient out of bed and moving (e.g., post-surgical recovery) and would not be something done routinely.
How much do you exercise? When do you eat your meals?"
L to the Ill's mommy replied: "I really don't think you need methamphetamine Witch is what adderal is
I think you need to talk to a therapist .
I think you have weight issues but an amphetamine is NOt the answer ..
adderall with defiantly exacerbate the tics it's a side effect !!
nothing will CURE Depression you need to stay on your current medication and talk to someone about it ..
it's sad that you think amphetamine is the answer to your problems .."
How long does it take trileptal to work? I've been on it for about 3.5 weeks, but I just started on the regular dose a week and a half ago. Is the time it takes based on how long I've been on the full dosage, or how long I've been taking it period? And at what point should I just go ahead and say "f-it, this isn't working!"? How will I know if it's working?
You see, I'm concerned because (although I've been able to manage--if just barely--to stuff it down and hide it, with a few uncontrollable waves of tears and depression every so often), my suicidal thoughts have turned into suicidal urges, and I'm not so sure what to do about that. I'm worried. Where before, it was unlikely that I'd even consider something like that, it's now become a very real possibility. I'm OK now. I've dissociated, and it's as if it didn't happen. In a few days I'll be manic again. But if the depression comes back, I'm not sure what will happen to me...what I'll do, I mean.
How will I know if it's working?
lisa1cares replied: "Several weeks are often required for oxcarbazepine (trileptal)to reach its maximum effectiveness; however, improvement in some symptoms may occur sooner.
It is very important to tell your doctor how you feel things are going during the first few weeksafter you start taking oxcarbazepine. It will probably take several weeks to see enough changes in your symptoms to decide if oxcarbazepineis helpful for you.
Mood stabilizer treatment is generally needed lifelong in persons with bipolar illness. Your doctor can best discuss the duration of treatment you need based on your symptoms and course of illness."

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